#8
Para hacernos una idea, le consulto a ChatGPT que me de unas pocas frases de lo que decian los lideres Zionistas antes del nacimiento del estado de israel, y estos ejemplos me da:
Yo:
can you give me quotes of Israeli leaders regarding the Palestines/Arabs, quites from before 1947
ChatGPT:
Certainly, here are some notable quotes from Israeli leaders regarding Palestinians/Arabs prior to 1947:
David Ben-Gurion:
"We must expel Arabs and take their places." (From Ben-Gurion's diary, 1937)"In our political argument abroad, we minimize Arab opposition to us, but let us not ignore the truth among ourselves... politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves... The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country." (From Ben-Gurion's speech at the Mapai Political Committee, 1938) Ze'ev Jabotinsky:
"Every indigenous people will resist alien settlers as long as they see any hope of ridding themselves of the danger of foreign settlement. That is what the Arabs in Palestine are doing, and what they will persist in doing as long as there remains a solitary spark of hope that they will be able to prevent the transformation of 'Palestine' into the 'Land of Israel.'" (From Jabotinsky's article "The Iron Wall", 1923)"We cannot have any influence if we become a minority in our own country. Therefore, we must hold fast to maximal demands, for the time being, if we want to insure the coming of those who will return the Land of Israel to us." (From Jabotinsky's speech at the 17th Zionist Congress, 1931) Menachem Begin:
"The Partition of Palestine is illegal. It will never be recognized .... Jerusalem was and will forever be our capital. Eretz Israel will be restored to the people of Israel. All of it. And forever." (From Begin's speech to the General Zionist Council, June 1948)"Our race is the Master Race. We are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves." (While this quote is sometimes attributed to Begin, it's important to note that there's significant debate about its authenticity and context, and it's likely a misattribution or a fabrication.)
#13 FALSO
No, esto pone, lo copio en ingles (lo que tu mensionas lo listan como el elemento fisico, pero tambien hay un elemento mental). Aqui lo explican ( y de hecho has quitado la parte donde menciona explicitamente intencion):
The popular understanding of what constitutes genocide tends to be broader than the content of the norm under international law. Article II of the Genocide Convention contains a narrow definition of the crime of genocide, which includes two main elements: 1. A mental element: the "intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such"; and 2. A physical element, which includes the following five acts, enumerated exhaustively:
- Killing members of the group
- Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group
- Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part
- Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group
- Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group
The intent is the most difficult element to determine. To constitute genocide, there must be a proven intent on the part of perpetrators to physically destroy a national, ethnical, racial or religious group. Cultural destruction does not suffice, nor does an intention to simply disperse a group. It is this special intent, or dolus specialis, that makes the crime of genocide so unique. In addition, case law has associated intent with the existence of a State or organizational plan or policy, even if the definition of genocide in international law does not include that element.
De aqui: www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtml#:~:text=To constitute
#2
"Ahora resulta que se les juzga por las afirmaciones que han hecho... y no por sus actos... pero que cojones..."
Las palabras son importantes porque una de las condiciones para que exista genocidio es la intención de cometerlo. En otros casos, como ocurrio en Bosnia, los abogados deben intentar demostrar esa intención. En el caso de Israel las palabras son importantes porque dejan el caso de genocidio bastante facil, la intención la han manifestado.
El caso es de libro, el problema es que muchos de estos jueces en el ICJ son jueces politicos, muy clara la presidenta jueza americana. Pero si se echa atras esto la justicia internacional esta acabada, es mas un juicio para ver si de verdad los mecanismos internacionales funcionan que para ver si Israel esta cometiendo genocidio.
Otra cosa mas, en este "hearing" de hoy y mañana, no se juzga aun si Israel esta cometiendo genocidio, eso llevara mas tiempo, se usa un mecanismo en el que solo se quiere mirar si hay posibilidad de que este ocurriendo ese genocidio, si hay sospechas de ello. Esto es para acelerar el proceso, para que se puedan tomar medidas legales rapidas, cuando el tiempo es muy importante (aunque estas medidas legales tengan poca capcidad de presión).
Para hacernos una idea, le consulto a ChatGPT que me de unas pocas frases de lo que decian los lideres Zionistas antes del nacimiento del estado de israel, y estos ejemplos me da:
Yo:
can you give me quotes of Israeli leaders regarding the Palestines/Arabs, quites from before 1947
ChatGPT:
Certainly, here are some notable quotes from Israeli leaders regarding Palestinians/Arabs prior to 1947:
David Ben-Gurion:
"We must expel Arabs and take their places." (From Ben-Gurion's diary, 1937)"In our political argument abroad, we minimize Arab opposition to us, but let us not ignore the truth among ourselves... politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves... The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country." (From Ben-Gurion's speech at the Mapai Political Committee, 1938) Ze'ev Jabotinsky:
"Every indigenous people will resist alien settlers as long as they see any hope of ridding themselves of the danger of foreign settlement. That is what the Arabs in Palestine are doing, and what they will persist in doing as long as there remains a solitary spark of hope that they will be able to prevent the transformation of 'Palestine' into the 'Land of Israel.'" (From Jabotinsky's article "The Iron Wall", 1923)"We cannot have any influence if we become a minority in our own country. Therefore, we must hold fast to maximal demands, for the time being, if we want to insure the coming of those who will return the Land of Israel to us." (From Jabotinsky's speech at the 17th Zionist Congress, 1931) Menachem Begin:
"The Partition of Palestine is illegal. It will never be recognized .... Jerusalem was and will forever be our capital. Eretz Israel will be restored to the people of Israel. All of it. And forever." (From Begin's speech to the General Zionist Council, June 1948)"Our race is the Master Race. We are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves." (While this quote is sometimes attributed to Begin, it's important to note that there's significant debate about its authenticity and context, and it's likely a misattribution or a fabrication.)